RETIRED CBS ENGINEERS ASSOCIATION

Messages from retirees This page is an "archive" into which the message pages from April, 2001 are being moved as they become aged. It is intended to serve the purpose of filling in for those who may be off line for a period and want to review what they've missed, and also as a place to look up past correspondence. The arrangement is from top to bottom earliest to the latest, for the easiest day-to-day perusal.

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Received April 6, 2001:

From Harold Deppe

Hi Les.
For the past Year we have heard much about Production People.  Are not any Technical (Maint.)People still around ?  Except Paul Buda who is trying to send Ice to 34th St.?  I remember Paul very well.  Is it possible to get some input to this Webb Page from present C.B.S. Employees?  Would like to hear about High Definition.
P.S. Thanks To Ted for his Fine Pictures.   Best Regards ....Harold Deppe.

From Cal Marotta re: Photo 279

The show was a rehearsal of the Arthur Murray Show
***From Adrian. Thanks Cal, now further updated, and you deserve a credit line, which I've also added.

From Bill Murtough

There has been a number of postings about General Engineering so I would like to add my two cents worth. The incident occurred in the late thirties. I was between jobs. I had a message from a chap I knew, S. E. (Eddy) Leonard, Engineer-in Charge (NBC's title for chief engineers) of NBC's owned and operated station in Cleveland, asking if Sammy Kaye (orchestra leader) had located me. My curiosity was piqued so I phoned WOR announcer Tom Slater and arranged to accompany him to the Commodore that evening, and met Sam who had invented and patented an electronic vibrato device, and wanted a technical person to accompany him to demonstrate it to CBS (both CBS and MBS had remote lines into the Commodore). He wanted to use the unit on the CBS broadcasts, feeding the Kay Choir through it to produce an organ effect.

The device consisted of two Bliley temperature controlled crystals, one of which could be detuned by a small variable condenser. Audio would be fed in to one of them to modulate the carrier, the other would be detuned by the condenser, and the two would beat against each other, giving the desired vibrato effect, then fed through a detector stage to an audio output.

A few days later I met with Sam and we "cabbed" to CBS labs (I forget where it was but it was on Madison. Maybe 485. I am not sure.) We met with either Lodge or Chamberlain. They had a young fellow by trhe name of Howard Chinn, who promptly hooked it up backwards (the input to the "load'" and the output to the "source"). My heart sank!.

About a month later we were called back and they refused to let Sam use it, citing that it was not in a CBS style case. I offered to go to their case maker and obtain the proper case. Then they said that it was operated on A.C. and they used batteries on their field equipment. I offered to make a battery pack for it. After several of these go-arounds they said that it was "against their policy". I turned to Sam and said "Let's Go!". After we settled down in the taxi, Sam asked what that was about. I explained that the "policy" bit was something I couldn't reply to. It was a "cop out". In later years I would figure out the mystery when I found out that Raymond Scott was trying to develop a similar device. Ray was Mark Warnow's brother. Mark was a CBS conductor. Obviously the CBS people did not want to "rock the boat". I suggested taking the unit to Hammond as their "whirling horn" vibrato device left a lot to be desired. Sam wasn't interested. The last a I knew, the device was still in the cardboard box under Sam's bed.

Bill Murtough

***From Adrian: Sorry, Bill, had to correct your spelling of Howard Chinn's surname. Everybody these days seems to spell it with just one "n", and I correct it every chance I get. That's a good story about Howard's early career misstep. Shows how one of my greatest idols at CBS (he hired me into "General" Engineering in April, 1948) could have "feet of clay". But I'm sure Howard would have chuckled at hearing that story repeated. As a historical note, the "General" part of "General Engineering" had been officially dropped by the time I was hired, but I heard techs referring to it that way for years afterwards.

From Al and Teresa DeQuinzio

Hi Folks

We are happy to announce the birth of our new granddaughter,  Kate Mary Caputo.  (Katie)  was born on April 04, 2001  at 10:00 AM EST.  Katie  came into
the world weighing in at 9 lbs 0 ounces  and 19.75 inches long.  Mother and baby are doing fine and should be released from the hospital on Sunday morning.  Attached are some pictures of the baby

As for me, my thanks go out to all of you for your prayers and well wishes for my speedy recovery.  I'm coming along at the normal rate of recovery and am amazed at what has happened to me.  I never suspected that I would need bypass surgery let alone a triple.   I thank God and my special saint,   Stephen,  for watching over me.
I'm up and about for a  portion of the day and taking at least one nap per day.  I feel myself getting stronger each day and am looking forward to walking outside as soon as the weather warms up a bit. 

regards to all.................Al

From Tony Cucurullo

INFO: IF YOU LOSE YOUR PURSE OR WALLET:

We've all heard horror stories about fraud that's committed using your name, address, SS#, credit, etc.

Unfortunately I have first hand knowledge, because my wallet was stolen last month and within a week they'd:
    * ordered an expensive monthly cell phone package,
    * applied for a VISA credit card,
    * had a credit line approved to buy a Gateway computer,
    * received a PIN number from DMV to change my driving record info online, and more.
=====================================================================
But here's some critical info.  to limit the damage in case this happens to you or someone you know.

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*As everyone always advises, cancel your credit cards immediately, but the key is having the toll free numbers and your card numbers handy so you know
who to call.  Keep those where you can find them easily (having to hunt for them is additional stress you WON'T need at that point!).

*File a police report immediately in the jurisdiction where it was stolen, this proves to credit providers you were diligent, and is a first step toward an investigation (if there ever is one).

*But here's what is perhaps most important: Call the three national credit reporting organizations immediately to place a fraud alert on your name and SS#. I had never heard of doing that until advised by a bank that called to tell me an application for credit was made over the Internet in my name.

*The alert means any company that checks your credit knows your info was stolen and they have to contact you by phone to authorize new credit.

*By the time I was advised to do this - almost 2 weeks after the theft all the damage had been done(there are records of all the credit checks initiated by the thieves' purchases, none of which I knew about before placing the alert).

Since then, no additional damage has been done, and the thieves threw my wallet away this weekend (someone turned it in). It seems to have stopped them in their tracks.  The numbers are:
=============================================================================================================
Equifax 1-800525-6285;  Experian (formerly TRW) 1-800-301-7195;  Trans Union 1-800-680-7289;  Social Security Administration 1-800-269-0271 (fraud)
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TONY C.

From Tony Cucurullo

HI.....
Check this pix out of good ol' mother earth  This is awesome - enjoy.
Check out this night picture of the earth from NASA. The image is a panoramic view of the world from the new space station.

You can scroll East-West and North-South. Canada's population is almost exclusively along the U.S. border. Moving East to Europe, there is a high population concentration along the coast of the Mediterranean.  Moving East, most striking is the difference between North and South Korea. Truly unique!

It is an absolutely awesome picture of the Earth taken from the Boeing built Space Station.

Click on this link, or Copy to your browser:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg

Received April 15, 2001:

Happy Easter to y'all, its catch up time for me.

From Tony Cucurullo

The following article is excerpted from a magazine I subscribe to. I find it necessary to pass this information along to you, my brothers and sisters.  As most of you realize we are getting," long in the tooth". And coping with all vagaries of life is becoming a little tedious.  The thought of leaving my ESTATE to my loving children is in its-self is a daunting task. But the coup-de-grace in my thinking is that the vultures in the State (States), and all government agencies will claw away at my life's work, and meager savings.  I know to some of you the process of arranging ones assets that will be shared by others is almost anathema, but it must be done, or the consequences will be dire in relation to the voracious appetites of the tax vultures.  I chose some of the paragraphs from my literature for you to peruse. I didn't list the magazines name because I won't sponsor nor tout a subscription to it, but you can access this information at any library or book-store. However, if you email me… I will forward the source name to you.  However, painful, or distasteful, you must get QUALIFIED advice. DO NOT,….DO NOT,  trust or believe a friend, or neighbors brother-in-law, or your corner book-maker, (although I might give some credence to him). Rather seek An ESTATE PLANNING EXPERT.

Regards,
Tony C,

NOW READ ON

When U.S. Senator Robert Kerr of Oklahoma died, he left an estate that was valued at $20 million.

The IRS immediately demanded $9 million from his astonished heirs. But market conditions at the time meant they would have to sell various stocks and real estate at a substantial loss just to pay the sudden estate taxes.

They liquidated what they could, but could raise only $3 million. So they had to borrow the other $6 million. (You read that correctly they had to borrow.) In the end, most of the estate went to interest payments and the IRS -- not to the needy, and very frustrated heirs. They went into debt.

If this can happen to the $20 million fortune of a U.S. Senator (and long-standing member of the Senate Finance Committee), you and I are certainly fair game. You just know that for every high-profile case like this, thousands of "smaller fish" are getting fried.

Think about it: You've already paid taxes on all this money when you earned it. To me, taxing it again is like -- pardon my bluntness, but there are no other words for it -- grave robbing.  No wonder so many in Congress has long argued that the estate tax is unconstitutional. In fact, it was actually repealed not once, not twice, but three times: 1802, 1870, and 1902. Unfortunately, each time it was re-enacted a few years later when the government needed funds to finance various wars. …. hidden risks, little-known strategies, and options you won't hear about from most accountants, lawyers, or insurance agents. Why not? Frankly, they just don't have the time to dig deep enough, or the training necessary to even know where they should look………

Good Luck, and I hope you have relatives that have an ecumenism in their hearts, and treat you fairly. Besides, NO ONE CAN MANAGE THEIR ESTATE FROM THE GRAVE!!
TONY C.

From Bob Dailey

TONY......THAT AERIAL VIEW IS TRULY MAGNIFICENT

(see april 6th posting for link to the site.)

From Tony Cucurullo

Sour Grapes

            The Masters golf tournament is over and it was a thrilling sporting event to watch. I have become a golfing viewer as a result of the play of the professionals, and the majestic beauty of the golf courses.
           
The deification of the golfers though is something to behold. Granted not everyone can do what he or she does. I do appreciate the athleticism of the players, and they are rewarded handsomely for their talents.

That apparently is not enough recompense to satisfy the public. They become elevated to the status of mortal deities. Fair enough, if that is your sport and your pleasure.

Then one would have to reevaluate the status of those that contribute to the health, welfare and safety of the general population in the world.

We Americans have our national and  local political hero's; we chisel their images in stone in the side of mountains. We also glamorize the screen stars and present them with statues of recognition.

All sorts of awards are granted in all sorts of mediums for those special people that attain a semblance of selected greatness. This affords those of us, "the lesser lights," to assign our egos to the accomplishments of those in our chosen fields. Sort of like the fish that travels along with the shark and feeds off what is left over. I call that "reflected glory." Now, to the point.  When I watched the, "Story of the Masters" it was a very well done documentary on the great players of the past. They deserved the recognition for accomplishing the pinnacle attainments of their sport. But,…I don't understand the association of Frank Chirkinian placing his image  along with the "Golfing Immortals." Frank might be one of the better sport Directors and Producers?  Proof that he is not an immortal as he portrays himself, is the simple fact that other people have directed and or produced other golf matches on other networks. I  believe you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between them.  Associating oneself as he did with such immortals would be the same as if I had my name associated with General McArthur, Admiral Nimitz, Admiral (Bull) Halsey and so on… because I served in the Navy during WW 11.

Frank you may have climbed the ladder of success to the top rung (in your own estimation) but there is one more rung above that,...... and it is reserved for those that achieve immortality. You were good, but not great!
Tony C.

From Gayle DePoli

Very nicely written Papa Tony.  You realize there are other Sour Grapes out on the PGA Tour and Masters special. 

The Biography of Jack Nicklaus was a fine piece to honor one of the greatest players in the sport's history.  But the emphasis paid by him and many others on that show and on the tour for the achievements of Tiger Wood's is near sinful.  I'm not the greatest fan of young Tiger, but appreciate the talent that athleticism that he brings to the sport.  He is not well liked on the tour.  Why?  Because he makes the others work.  He doesn't socialize with them.  He comes to work.  He's up at 5 AM everyday in the gym and out on the courses perfecting his game.  And now that he is the first golfer in history to hold ALL major titles at one time, the games elder statesman, Mr. Jack Nicklaus, is the first in line to say, "they are not within the same calendar year and that's not a grand slam".  Talk about sour grapes?  That comes from a man that has become wealthy beyond belief from the sport of golf.  He also couldn't have done more for the game in the over three decades he played.  But in stepping aside, have the grace and dignity to acknowledge those that are now coming up behind you.  Nicklaus was once the great phenomena on the links.  Give the devil his due. Pass the reins to Tiger Woods and do it with class.

From Jim Herschell

Hi Tony, here's a couple of comments regarding your e-mail in reference to Estate Planning. My first comment is regarding the story about Sen. Kerr's estate.  I think this is an exaggerated scare story by Estate Planners.  If the estate was heavily into stock whose current market value was low, then the estate could not be valued at the purported $20 mil. Any competent tax attorney would be able to get this figure adjusted to a reasonable number. I really doubt if his heirs went into debt to pay the taxes.  If Sen Kerr amassed a $20 mil estate and did not have the foresight to have his assets protected by Trust accounts, then he deserved to have the IRS take the bulk of it.
My second comment is concerning Estate Planers. Beware of the so-called Planning experts.  It would behoove you to only deal with a competent Estate Attorney. Be sue to check out his references. There are many charlatans out there making a fast buck on this situation.
You're absolutely right to advise people to get there estates looked at but by a "Professional" only.  My wife and I did this a few years ago using a recommended attorney.  Her cost was very reasonable compared to some of the numbers I have heard that "so-called Estate Planners " charge.
***From Adrian: Jim has an excellent point. There has to be more than meets the eye in that Kerr story. It just doesn't hold up. But basic estate planning isn't rocket science. In the first place, unless a married couple's net worth exceeds $1,350,000, per today's rates, virtually any lawyer will set you up to avoid estate tax. The present deductable is $675,000 per person. If the couple's total net worth is less than that, nothing special needs to be done. If it's more, the assets should be put mainly into individual, not joint, name and each spouse should have a separate will. That doesn't take an estate specialist, and is within the province of most lawyers. Specialists are only for couples with a combined net worth well over that $1,350,000 minimum. And by present law, that deductable is increasing year by year. Re the Kerrs, my guess is they wanted to borrow money for further tax avoidance purposes. It's a favorite trick of fat cats to use a borrowing strategy, because interest charges are deductable. And the only people affected by estate tax are those who want to pass huge fortunes on to maintain family dynasties. The main reason to oppose the estate tax is if you believe that the country will be better off with more and huger family dynasties.

From Tony Cucurullo

            As I wander toward the sunset of life, lot's of images flash by in my thoughts. I guess when you have my type of mind, which is , a brick shy of a full load, one gets to musing about those seemingly funny anecdotes during a cornucopia of life's events.

            I'm tiptoeing  towards 74 years. I mostly don't drive because of a foot problem. My wife, bless her likes to drive our van. I don't let touch my Lexus. Anyway, tonight when we parked at a restaurant she was around to the passenger's side, opened the door helped me out, grabbed my hand and said, "Come-on-ole man, I'll drag you to the door." She didn't know that she wasn't the first person to ever say that to me.

            Years ago on sport remotes the 'mini-camera job went to two people. One on camera and one toting the heavy backpack that fit your back from shoulder to below your ass.  It wasn't an easy assignment. In addition to this you had to pull up to 700 feet of video-audio cable. A daunting assignment at best.  It helped to know the show format. The cameraman would have to follow the game on both sides of the field.

            I was honored to be associated with some of the best in the world. John Lincoln, Jim McCarthy, I was proud to learn  the art of fieldwork from them. But, this story is about one of my favorites and one of the hardest working men any where and in any field, Frank "Red" McSpedon. Frank was a tall man, 6feet 4inches. I believe 6 feet of him was the length of his legs. When he took a normal stride you had better not have a cardiac problem, and that was just walking up 57th Street.  Now when this man worked on the field he had, "Zero tolerance," for anyone that couldn't keep up with him. You didn't get a second call if he didn't like your work. If by chance you worked with, 'Red"and also a football game in the hands of, "Mr. Perfection" Big Bob Dailey. Here is a typical command from the control room and Bob. "GO RED,….AND PULL TONY"
Thanks Bob for the memory.
Tony c

From Tony Cucurullo

     Ms. ConnieChung, a very nice and, understanding lady.  What could have turned out to be an, "incident," became a vehicle of mutual respect.  Ms. Connie Chung was doing a magazine type show out of Studio 43, at the broadcast center, on 57th, Street.

            The crew enjoyed working for her because she is very professional and talented, and I might add very easy on the eyes to look at.

            On a Saturday afternoon while setting for a seemingly late session (we always worked in the am) Other than CBS staff technicians were setting up in the studio.  At first we (technicians and stagehands) all thought they might be musical talent setting their own microphones and such. The stagehands were first to question them because generally they set all props.

            I was called to the set to ask questions about the technical setup involved. The response I received was that they had permission because they too were IBEW members. One of them showed his dues card. I told him that did not matter he was on CBS property and we had an exclusive contract to do all the technical setups, and the stagehands had the same exclusivity in their contract.  But, we would allow them to observe us doing it for them.

            They refused our request, and it became obvious that an impasse was developing.  Coincidently there was an absence of manager types, and I could not reach the union Business Manager, or anyone on the beeper numbers.   I searched the building for a company rep. I went to the local news department, and they had a department manager on duty. I apprised him of the situation and I leaned on him to make a decision. He was very reluctant to get involved. I also managed to reach an assistant business rep. by phone. He arrived at the plant sometime later, and came to the studio floor with the manager of the news department.

            During that waiting period the atmosphere in the studio was rising and tensions were building. The word spread through out the building that a problem was developing in Studio 43. I didn't realize that there were so many people working on an off day. Now, at this point in time the studio was being encircled by any technician that could be freed up from their jobs, also there was stagehands, electricians, building maintenance men, CBS security, telephone techs. That I didn't realize were on duty.

            Oddly there was a manager that was not known to any of us. He was positioned in the overhead grids, the area reserved for the stage electricians, lighting people and our technicians that run cables of all sorts up there. It isn't a place for  just anyone to  to stay to observe our actions.  Strange, I never did find out who he was?  Now when we were at the point when some people were suggesting that we physically throw them out, along came union rep., and the company spoke person.
 Neither wanted to make any suggestions or decisions.

       I asked one of the younger men from that maverick audio group to show me his union card, he proclaimed, "I don't need one because I work for the audio man, and not for any union."  Voila!   I now had the legal right to ask them to leave.   Our contract at that time had a clause that did not permit  SUB-CONTRACTING in a CBS building.  The union rep. still didn't have the "balls' to take a stand. So the techs. Led by one of the women, said "get them out of the building, or we walk." And the head of the stage people agreed that they would pull the lights.  Telco also chimed in and, said the phone lines might be in trouble. Everyone was in total agreement on our actions.

            At that point someone noticed that there was a mobile truck parked outside on 57th.Street. Another violation of the contract.

            Ms. Chung was advised of this problem, and she came to the studio and we spoke. She immediately stated that we were within our rights and agreed to send the crew away. The cheers went up through out the plant. Everyone was patting each other on the backs for taking a stand against a sneak attack against all of our principles.

            It was proof that when we stand together in any endeavor we will triumph.  Just another moment in the history of CBS.  "And,…. you were there"
Tony C

CBS Retirees Luncheon

NEXT WEEK

ATTEND.

Come on, I miss you!

I am the one with the diminishing hairline, an 16 outta 32 teeth left.

Save me a seat.

Regards,

Modest Tony C.

From Tony Cucurullo

            "No doubt about it, someone else has conjured this thought before, but it occurred to me during one of my sleepless nights in which I solve all the worlds problems?"

            Cloning, is the reproduction of another entity, of sorts. It could be sheep, dogs, humans, etc. But, take pause for a moment and consider that to clone something or someone is, "too freeze a moment in time." It is as if you were to take one frame from a motion picture film, or edit a scene from a video.   You could capture that frame and reproduce it as many times as you wish to.  All you would end up with is a copy of that particular slice of life. Not an improvement on it, but an exact copy of it. Why would you want another George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Lincoln, Einstein, Copernicus, and the likes of these greats? You would have them in the time frame of their greatness.   That which we have already chronicled and, entered into the history books, for posterity, too review. They would be out of step with our current events, as each day is also out of step with the previous day.  I think the idea has occurred to the scientific world that a place in immortality awaits the one that produces another human form (not being?).  There isn't any benevolence in their race to upset the balance of nature.  Society needs always to be ever vigilant that there isn't a potential monster out there that would create a bank of predetermined clones to profit from harvesting body parts. Sort of like a human-chop-shop. At the this point in time I don't see the long range picture for the need to duplicate any particular instance of the human history, because history only repeats itself and as history is wont to do, it invariably makes the same decisions or action of the history it recalled.

Who will decide to clone, the good humans, or the bad humans, or just the CBS supervisors? Then too, imaging someone else writing this column again? Yuck! 

Tony C, Tony C, Tony C, Tony C, Tony C, Tony C, Tony C, Tony C, Tony C

Also From Tony C

All right! Already! I am sorry I offended you with my writings.
As Pierce Evans intones," if you don't like what you see, close your eyes while reading it...." (Paraphrased)
With me, though you have two choices use the "delete key," or tell me to remove your name from my list, (as someone else has already requested) I will cheerfully do it, if that makes you happy. I will do anything to, not lose your friendship...that would be to big a loss, for me.

Happy Easter, and Happy Holiday or, Happy whatever too all.

The Senility Champ

Tony C.

Received April 25, 2001:

From Tony Cucurullo

Take notice...

Better not lick those envelopes!

Thought you could all use this health tip.....If you lick your envelopes...You won't anymore!!!! A woman was working in a post office in California.  One day she licked the envelopes and postage stamps instead of using a  sponge. That very day the lady cut her tongue on the envelope.

A week later, she noticed an abnormal swelling of her tongue.  She went to the doctor, and they found nothing wrong.  Her tongue was not sore or anything.  A couple of days later, her tongue started to swell more, and it began to get really  sore, so sore, that she could not eat. She went back to the hospital, and demanded something be done. The doctor took an X-ray of her tongue,and noticed a lump. He prepared her for minor surgery. When the doctor cut her tongue open, a live  roach crawled out. There were roach eggs on the seal of the envelope. The egg was able to hatch inside of her tongue  because of her saliva. It was warm and moist..This is a true story reported on CNN

Andy Hume wrote:
Hey, I used to work in an envelope factory. You wouldn't believe the.....things that float around in those gum
applicator trays. I haven't licked an envelope for years.

To All:
I used to work for a print shop (32 years ago) and we were told NEVER to lick the envelopes. I never understood why
until I had to go into storage and pull out 2500 envelopes that were already printed for a customer who was doing a
mailing and saw several squads of roaches roaming around inside a couple of boxes with eggs everywhere. They eat the glue on the envelopes.

I think print shops have a harder time controlling roaches than a restaurant. I always buy the self sealing type. Or if need be I use a glue stick to seal ,one that has the type of glue that needs to be wet to stick.

PLEASE PASS THIS ON !!!!

From Phyllis Holst

Dear Tony,
Here's one for you. 
Phyllis Holst

What happens when a president gets elected in a year with a "0" at the end?
Also notice it goes in increments of 20years And LOOK! this year is were it
lands!

  1840: William Henry Harrison (Died in Office)
  1860: Abraham Lincoln (Assassinated)
  1880: James A. Garfield (Assassinated)
  1900: William McKinley (Assassinated)
  1920: Warren G. Harding (Died in Office)
  1940: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Died in Office)
  1960: John F. Kennedy (Assassinated)
  1980: Ronald Reagan (Survived Assassination Attempt)
  2000: ?????????????????????????????????????????????
  And to think that we had 2 guys duking it out in the courts to be the one elected in 2000

  You might be interested in this.
  Have a history teacher explain this ---- If they can.
  Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
  John F Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

  Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
  John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

  Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
  Both wives lost their children while living in the White House

  Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
  Both Presidents were shot in the head.

  Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
  Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.

  Both were assassinated by Southerners.
  Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

  Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
  Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

  John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
  Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

  Both assassins were known by their three names.
  Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

  Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford.'
  Kennedy was shot in a car called 'Lincoln' made by Ford

  Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.
  Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.

  Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

  And here's the kicker:
  A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
  A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.

  Creepy, huh? Send this to as many people as you can, cause,
  Hey, this is one history lesson people don't mind reading
>^..^<

From Tony Cucurullo

          I have the impression that we are close to the finish line of  "The Web Page," (www.rrhistorical-2.com/retcbs) communication between friends.  I have more to say, but I feel at this point I am howling into the wind.   I, "layed off," for a week, hoping someone would contribute, a piece. Perhaps, even about the recently attended luncheon, in Ft. Lee, NJ.
         
          The keepers of the "page' seem to have run-out of desire to compile what is sent to them. They have gone to printing only once a week. No doubt it is because there isn't too much, to offer.

          Ted has taken some great photos of the luncheon. He asked me to try and identify some of the people. I do recognize  almost everyone….but, the names have slipped into the dungeon of my memory bank. (Which has become
quite extensive as of late.)

          I miss the running dialogue, and mundane chitchat that was a by-play between, Gayle DePoli, and Deppe, out in Arizona, (the land of scorpions, Purnick, and unclean toilets) and myself. That, though required almost, instant replay between us. Something the "Page"couldn't accommodate.

          I tried cajoling, irritating, deception, and errors of all sorts.  I succeeded in annoying only two people. The very two that we need the most. Adrian Ettlinger, and, Les (I don't know how he faked that big picture of a fish ) Burkhardt. 

      Adrian's 'Little Gray Cells' won't permit him to participate in 'Lower Case' thinking.  But, I discovered that most of the 'Engineering Department' personnel have the humor gradation of MC^2-j. They laugh at errors that occur exponentially, and only with knuckle placed gently  against their upper lip.
         
          Les, however is too methodical in everything that he does. When he goes fishing, which is most every day. He won't take a fish from his line that hasn't been programmed for good taste?  He also, doesn't work on the "Page' unless the glow from his 'Halo' out shines the Florida sunsets.  

          We are thankful to him for keeping the names of the "Retirees" up-to-date. He has varied it lately. He has different categories now….
(1)Living ???
(2)Almost!!
(3)There's Hope For?

          The other two people responsible for  the 'Page' are Fred Schutz Ted (The Eye Chart) Perzezsty

          Fred Schutz, you could say is..?  Or maybe he…..?  Well, at least you can't ….., or can you?  He has been known to do ……sometimes?  He is at least an American.

          Now take Ted, (go ahead say it all of you, Henny Youngman wannabe's…."Please"). Without Ted helping me to put  together most of these innocuous stories of the past, I would still be using pencil, paper and an abacus, but now I am also illiterate in computer sciences too. 
          Ted always wanted to be a CBS Engineer, Well, he had the knowledge and the brainpower, but he could also solder, so naturally he became a worker, instead.
          Ted is also very methodical, he reads  virtually all the manuals, on automotive, computers, marriage, etc.
          And, Ted can keep a secret,…..yeah,….sure!  There is a saying, if you want to spread the word, "Telephone, Telegraph, Tell Ted."

          Well, enough from the expurgated mind of, "Mr. Excitement" Ha..Ha..

          I hope this type is large enough for Pierce to read?

Regards,
Tony C.

From Bob Vernum

les,just a few words about the retiree luncheon.It was well worth the trip
from alameda,I was like a kid in a candy store trying to touch base with
everyone,I'm not going to mention names because I am sure to leave someone
out but rest assured I plan on attending at least one a year.  BOB V

[Note from Les]

It has been 10 days since I made my last entry until today and you see the result above of what I have received in that period of time.  The last 2 items were received just a couple of minutes ago.  Fishing has not been that good lately, poor winds and tides.  I try to make it worth my time to assemble these pages to send to Adrian for the posting, as you can see I did minimal correction to the email that I received.   How many of you have linked to the WCBS web page with the photos posted there???  I could have down loaded those photos, made a few identifications of the persons therein and formatted them for posting on our site, but to this time I have received a sum total of zero email about those photos.  
[Interjection from Adrian: This link was added to our "Links" section a couple of weeks ago, but attention was not called to it on the "Messages" page, so no one noticed it. The link is: WCBS-TV Technical Maintenance Links]
I have rediscovered that I am able to read (large print) for a while and have given a portion of my spare time to that, I have also become addicted to playing Euchre and Pitch card games on the computer.  

I guess that, if I had input from the people out there, I could spend that time preparing photos and items for posting on the web site.  If you have photos that you think would be food for the site and have no way of scanning them into your computer, send them to me or Ted Perzeszty and we will scan them into our computer and post them to the web site.  Please identify persons in the photos, put return address labels on the back side of the photos so that we will be certain of returning them to the correct person.

That is my challenge to you out there..........Now! you give me a challenge to see if I can get your photos and information posted in an expedient manner.

I could look up the photo of the 2 LARGE fish I pulled in that day.  In fact my 2 sons pulled in a 180 pound flounder that day.  Another story???? Hmmm!  Email me to find the rest of the story.

[Sad note from Adrian]

Hugo Ripp passed away the night of April 24, around midnight, at a hospital in the Palm Beach area.

The family is holding a private gathering in Florida, and is considering plans for a memorial service at a later date in the New York area.

Astra and two of Hugo's children, Wendy and Eric, will be in Florida at least through this weekend and can be addressed to Astra Parts, 2512 La Crystal Circle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410-1450. Otherwise, the address to use is 19 Lefurgy Ave., Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706.
----------------Adrian Ettlinger

Received April 27, 2001:

From Joe Janovsky

Hi Les,
This is for the computer gurus:  Why do the messages from Tony Cucurullo contain a lot of garbled letters in addition to the ordinary text?
73, Joe J.

[ans.] My initial thought on this is that it appears that you have a computer font type conflict.  I think that Tony sends his messages in Times New Roman font.  If you do not have that font in your computer, your machine will use whatever font that you have selected.  Most word processing programs have that font (Times New Roman) as part of the program and you should be able to get the font there.

From Tony Cucurullo

Hugo A. Ripp

Senior Staff Engineer
Engineering and Development NY

555/10   Extension 3099

The telephone directory of May 1990, list Hugo A. Ripp with the above data.
I knew him as Captain Quegg, and he called me Ensign Pulver, because he could never find me ...working.

He progressed from Maintenance Supervisor to the lofty echelons of the Engineering Department.  That is quite an accomplishment when you consider that the maintenance department was staffed with all sorts-of alter egos. Some egos  were stratospheric in nature, some were really super-egos. To be fair though, I might add that these people were all very talented, and truly, most of them could, and should, have been made supervisors, just because of their great technical skills. The reward should have gone to them as a raise in the pay scale.  Many of them couldn't lead a horse to water let alone another egocentric as they were.  Hugo, though, could do it all. I sometimes believed he possessed one deaf ear, and the other with a filter strapped to ground.  He was fair, exact, and unquestioned. He said something and it was done,
period.

    He was a renaissance man during the 'Golden Live Years,' when there wasn't retakes or replays. His staff had to produce and he led them to this greatness.

Hugo a. Ripp, in the pantheon of CBS Pioneers.

Tony C.

From Tony Cucurullo

      Not all the technicians I refer to, as Olympian Gods qualify for that lofty status. Virtually most of the people made it through their CBS experience as cogs. "COGS," in capitals, because the company certainly could not be successful without a single one of these important people.
     
      Normie Reich was an integral and very competent member of the Telecine Operations Department. He was unique in that his style as an employee was natural in his way of thinking, but he was a character amongst self-feeding characters.

      Reich, Stessin, Seigal, Purnick, Langer,Cohen, Scholnick, Haas, Steiger, this group from the many others of the  Telecine family could have passed for the Israeli freedom fighters. I used to think, the second floor at 57th. Street was a bunker, outside of Jerusalem. That Lou Dennis was both Chaplain, and Rabbi, for his esoteric group.

      Normie's, contribution to this folklore, was that on a not so rare occasion he would heat his lunch on the lamp housing of the 35-millimeter projectors.
      Norm was also a very fast sprinter. I challenged him to a foot race that was to take place on 56th. Street.  Frank Gifford, who incidentally played for the  NY Giants football team, and was a Local News Sportscaster at the time, heard about the race. He asked to take part in it. We each put up $20. We started at the corner of 10th. Avenue, and were to race past the ramp of the loading dock.
      It was a dead-heat between Normie, and Frank. I finished third after hailing a cab for the rest of the way. There wasn't any money exchanged, but a lot of friendly chest pounding, was in-order. Good sports all.

"Norm Reich, Thanks for the memories."


From Tony Cucurullo

Guaranteed to make you smile … Especially since it's a true story.
On
July 20, 1969, as commander of the Apollo 11 lunar module, Neil Armstrong was the first person to set foot on the moon, his first words after stepping on the moon, "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind,"
were televised to earth and heard by millions.  But just before he reentered the lander, he made the enigmatic remark "Good luck, Mr.Gorsky."
Many people at NASA thought it was a casual remark concerning some rival soviet cosmonaut.  However, upon checking, there was no Gorsky in either the Russian or American space programs. Over the years many people questioned Armstrong as to what the "good luck, Mr. Gorsky" statement meant, but Armstrong always just smiled.
On July 5, 1995, in Tampa Bay, Florida, while answering questions following a speech, a reporter brought up the 26-year-old question to Armstrong. This time he finally responded. Mr. Gorsky had died, so Neil Armstrong felt he
could answer the question.  In 1938 when he was a kid in a small Midwest town, he was playing baseball with a friend in the backyard. His friend hit the ball, which landed in his neighbor's yard by the bedroom windows. His neighbors were  Mr. and Mrs. Gorsky. As he leaned down to pick up the ball, young Armstrong heard Mrs. Gorsky shouting at Mr. Gorsky.  "Sex! You want sex?! You'll get sex when the kid next door walks on the moon!"

From Gayle DePoli

I realize that I didn't give you the names of the girls in the CBS Strokers photo....from Left to Right:  Alexis Dellar-Hanson, Wendy Sue Heiser-Milton, Vicotora Benson-Struck, Elma Gelaso, Susan Antonitis, Mary Maderias, Gayle DePoli, Lydia Sue Abrams-Keidel.

From Gayle also

Unknown audio guy....Mark Ganguzza????

[Unable to display image]  

[who knows what photo this is in reference to.]

From Harry Peterson

Instead of bemoaning the lack of interest in your household hints it might be more constructive to start a WHATEVER HAPPENED TO department.
Like, what ever happened to FRANK FINK?  HAROLD MICHAELS? both good EC people; they just disappeared!

Still wondering about it all!       Harry Peterson


Harry,
First thanks for writing. I have a hard time keeping this thing going. Your suggestion is certainly valid.  I will offer it and see what our response to it will be.  I hope all is well with you, and hopefully you haven't lost that good sense of humor you always showed.   Regards,        Tony C

Received April 29, 2001:

From William Murtough

Our local newspaper, The Stuart News, today carried a lengthy article regarding the Holocaust. One of the two survivors interviewed was one Alex Moscovic. It stated that he had retired from CBS Sports in 1994 where he was a video tape editor. He now lives in a gated community in Hobe Sound, just down the road a few miles from my location. Anybody know him?

By the way, did the CBS Sports department become a separate entity with it's own technical facility? If so how was that handled contract wise? Seniority? Pay scale? etc.

Bill Murtough

[additional comment from Les]

Yesterday,s (4/28/01) edition of the local paper here in Ft. Myers, FL had an article about Joel Banow.  He is presently a producer/director for the local PBS station located at Florida Gulf Coast University.  Joel was a news director at CBS and won an Emmy for the coverage of the first lunar landing.  I recall the name from that period at CBS and am sure quite a few of us have worked with him.

From Joe Janovsky

Hi Les,
I am in full agreement with Harry Petersen.  Here are some more candidates for whatever happened to:
Bobby Chinn
John Halpin
A. C. Rogers
Milt Waller
Bob Manno

Regards, Joe J.

From Lee Levy

2 way mirrors
I didn't know this, did you?
How to determine if a mirror is 2-way or not: (This is NOT a joke!) This is not to scare you, but to make you aware. This was passed on  by a Policewoman who travels all over the US and gives seminars and techniques for business women.

HOW TO DETECT A 2-WAY MIRROR:
When we visit toilets, bathrooms, hotel rooms, changing rooms, etc., how many of you know for sure that the seemingly ordinary mirror hanging on the wall is a real mirror, or actually a 2-way mirror? (I.e., they can see you, but you can't see them.)
There have been many cases of people installing 2-way mirrors in female changing rooms. It is very difficult to positively identify the surface by just looking at it.
So, how do we determine any amount of certainty what type of mirror we are looking at?  Just conduct this simple test:
Place the tip of your fingernail against the reflective surface and if there is a GAP between your fingernail and the image of the nail, then it is a GENUINE mirror.  However, if your fingernail DIRECTLY TOUCHES the image of your nail, then
BEWARE, FOR IT IS A 2-WAY MIRROR!
So remember, every time you see a mirror, do the "fingernail test."  It doesn't cost you anything. It is simple to do, and it might save you from getting visually raped!"

Remember: "No Space, Leave the Place!"
Ladies: Share this with your girlfriends, sisters, daughters, etc.  Men: Share this with your wives, daughters, daughters-in law, mothers, girlfriends and/or friends.

Received April 30, 2001:

From Harold Deppe

Hi Les.
What happend to .
That's the problem with this Webb. Site. There is very little input from Ex. C.B.S. Employees They are mostly readers. If there were more input from EX C.B.S. Employees  We would know what happend to. It would also make Tony C. happy He thinks He is Talking to Dead Air .
What Happend To....
Joe Geiger
Hom Young
Harry Charles
Dick Locke
Fred Huff..
Jerry Martin
Dan Acker
Pappy Treat
The Great White White Father of St.42.
Walter Grundwald
The Iconoscope
Edge Lights
Pulse Lights
Image Orthicon
Vidicon
And last but not least High Definition Telivision
Best Regards
Harold Deppe
P.S...What Happend To me?  I am watching this Webb Site.  are you there Tony .C?
I know we can depend on You.

[testing my knowledge?]  

The last thing I remember about Joe Geiger is that he was around the Mountaintop Area of Penna.  I checked Switchboard and it gave back 11 Joseph Geigers in Penna.  Maybe Don McGraw, if he is reading this, can come up with that answer.

Dick Lock:  Richard had a massive heart attack and died while at work sometime within the mid 70's.  It occurred on either a Tuesday or Wednesday of the work week.  I have used those 2 weekdays because that was my normal days off at that period of time and I was on my days off when he died.

Walter Grundwald:  Again this is another brother who died.   Walter retired to the Ft. Lauderdale area of Florida.  I seem to recall something about his widow still living in that area of  Florida.

Bob Manno: Bob took the buyout offer in 1985 and moved to some isolated area in upstate New York.  Just did a quick check on Switchboard and it has 12 Robert Mannos listed in NY

From Adrian Ettlinger

Hi Les.
What happend to .
Here are my two favorites to ask about. But I'm not really asking you, Les, because I'm sure they're both way before your time.
No. 1: Ruly Fowler
No. 2: Herb Zvorst
So what I'm really wondering, is anyone one listening who remembers either one? If so, there must be some good stories out there, especially about Ruly Fowler.
-------------Adrian

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