RETIRED CBS ENGINEERS ASSOCIATION
Messages from retirees
This page is an "archive" into which the message pages from June, 2001 have been moved. It is intended to serve the purpose of filling in for those who may be off line for a period and want to review what they've missed, and also as a place to look up past correspondence. The arrangement is from top to bottom earliest to the latest, for the easiest day-to-day perusal.

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Received June 3, 2001:

From Bob Wilson

Being house bound with a spouse recovering from surgery and bored, I started looking at some books, which had been with us some time. One was by Life magazine, "The First Fifty Years of 'Life" (1936-1986). I had forgotten, but in the 1941 section there was a series of pictures on the CBS Television sequential color system including a picture of Peter Goldmark with a color wheel and also the first or second orthicon color camera built in the CBS Television Lab. Also included was a picture taken from the control room showing the 15 Vanderbilt studio in operation (monochrome). 

This brought back many memories as it showed Al Treat in the switcher's position and a chap by the name of Bernie Brink in the shading position. Bernie left early in 1942 and, if I recall correctly, Dwight Temple replaced him. This studio, which I believe had been built about 1938, went on the air with the commercial call of WCBW on July 1, 1941. It had been W2XAB. It was my good luck to have been transferred down to the studio from the 485 Madison TV lab some six weeks earlier to help in the preparations to go on air. 

The Iconoscope camera pre-amps had to be re-built and Dr. Larry Jaffe was finishing the modification of the sync generator from 441 to 525 lines. 

The station went on the air on July 1, 1941 so this coming July 1 will be the sixtieth anniversary. It was not Channel two at that time which it became around 1946 when the TV channel allocations had been revised. The Station operated two or three hours in the afternoon, and then again, two to three hours in the evening, Monday through Friday. On Saturday there would only be an afternoon movie. Sunday was an off day on which we did maintenance. 

The technical operation was under the control of Peter Goldmark, whose title was, I believe, Chief Television Engineer. The assistant Chief was John Dyer. Peter's main effort in those days was the development of color and he did not involve himself in the Grand Central operation unless necessary. Interestingly, all the studio floor personnel including Camera, Boom and Dolly pusher were members of the program production department. There were three cameramen, Rudy Bretz, Eddie Anhalt and Phil Booth, for the two cameras. The third cameraman would direct and they would swap on the break between the back-to-back shows. The dolly pusher was "Sonny" Diskin, who was a field cameraman when I returned to New York in 1947, and the boom operator was Grey Lockwood. Gil Fates who rose to some prominence at Revlon and passed away several years ago was floor manager I believe. 

Phil Goetz was the Supervisor of the technical operation, Al Treat was video switcher, Bernie Brink the shader for the iconscope cameras, Dick Fay was audio. Telecine was Milt Haas and Bernie Erde. Projectionists had to be New York City licensed in those days. Maintenance was Dr. Larry Jaffe, Herb Lindner, Morris Tucker and myself. 

I was twenty years old in 1941 and after the operation was unionized in a deal between the company and the IBEW, (I think they were afraid of IA getting in, there was already an IA stage electrician) I was classified as an apprentice technician with over six months experience so I could work without supervision. I think I may have been the youngest union technician in CBS when I was raised to technician status several months later at twenty-one. ($49.50 weekly, five-year escalator) 

This operation continued until April of 1942 when live production was closed down with only a limited schedule of movies continuing. A number of us were transferred back to the TV lab, which had contracted with the Radio Research Lab at Harvard University to do Radar countermeasure development for the war effort. 

I did not return to Television until late 1947. There is very little history of the prewar television operation and I put this down mainly for my own benefit. I thought it might be of some interest to viewers of the website. 

As an afterthought and not to leave them out, the crew at the Chrysler Bldg transmitter which was on the 74th floor (and I know many remember doing microwave assist on the 78th) was Orville Sather, John Wilner, Ed Miller (later Tech manager at KNXT) Artie Irons, John Hogen and another chap who returned to New Orleans after a brief stint. 

There may have been others but my memory fails.........................73

From Harold Deppe

Hi Les.
From reading the Webb page of May 31 I think we all should remember the story of the 100 Marbles ....Time is short.

Best Regards......................Harold Deppe

[Les] The following is, first a quote from Tony Cucurullo and then an article taken from the NY Times, May 31st edition.  I had previously seen a copy of the newspaper article taken from the NY Post on the same date regarding Steve Alster.  I had also spoken to the people in Control Maintenance, who also verified the story.  Steve was at one time assigned to that maintenance group.

[Tony] Steve was a CBS's. He was in maintenance. He was also a computer programmer, working for the NY Police Dep't.
The union used him to set their computer at times..........Tony C.

From Lee Levy

NEW YORK TIMES : May 31, 2001
Police Charge Brooklyn Man in Explosion at Friend's Party

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*****Note from Adrian: We had this full article posted on the site for a few days, and if anyone didn't see it, you'll have to try to find it on the New York Times website. I've made a decision not to retain it on this site.
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Received June 4, 2001:

From Tony Cucurullo

   I was sorry to read the comments by Bob Vernum, that he "has read garbage on the WEB page"

    Les's retort to Bob is sufficient enough as an explanation.

    For me though it isn't enough to accept that as a critique' on our efforts to keep the lines of communications open for "all the CBS-Retirees"

    His supercilious comments are noted along with others that have tried to use this 'page to espouse only their ideas and or agenda.

    These disgruntled esoteric contributors have not told us what format they approve of, but they are sure that what we have done so far has been garbage.

    The door, or page has always been open to any contributor. There is only one rule that Mr. Adrian "The Magician" Ettlinger (It is his WEB page, you know) has, and that is we use prudent good judgment in content, and avoid head-on to politics, and religion.

    You are also allowed to attack in writing if you wish, but please try to be constructive, and avoid Venom, Vernum.

    Bob Zagoren wasn't the first to complain about my efforts. But! He was most certainly the first to be constructive and generous. It was his idea to put my e-mails on to a Web page, and he contacted Les Burkhardt, and Adrian Ettlinger. With their combined knowledge of such procedure, and with his money up front the Web page came into fruition.

    The idea so intrigued Fred Schutz, the "Major Domo" of the CBS-Retirees Club, that he approached us with the offer to "pick up the tab" for the WEB page.

    He saw this as a good investment. It saves on the enormous 'stamp bill, and a chance to give his wife and him less work in mailing out the notices.

    Ted Perzeszty, who has always jumped at a chance to help all causes, offered to send in the photos in the correct format. With a (.jpeg) suffix.  He is an enormous help to me in becoming computer literate.

    The purpose of all this was to gather the notes and stories from all sources and place them on the 'page.
It excited many of us thereby increasing the camaraderie, and friendship to all.

    With the great loss of our dear lady, 'Doris Reardon, her inimitable style and humor was absent from the "Retiree's" page. This hopefully is a suggested substitute, for her column.

    Criticism is helpful, and totally acceptable on our page, even though some of it is, "spleen venting."
In the past I have received,..... invective, .....slander, ....challengers to my intentions, but these do not make the page.

    All the material that I receive from all you goes to the "WEB GROUP" they are the governing body. Fred Schutz would not allow the good name of CBS to be used in any but a proper manner.

    I  DO NOT receive any compensation or remuneration for my efforts.  Neither does anyone else.

    Ted, has at his own expense taken most of the photos at the luncheons and develops them, (electronically, of course). This is the way it is supposed to be. "Friends helping friends" And, coworkers enjoying juicy tidbits about one-another.

    When I posted my list of "technicians" I didn't list them because of favoritism. I chose them to get the idea off the ground, thereby making it easier for some of you to recognize a former employee that deserves some form of recognition.

    It is a nice way to show that your peers were aware of your good work. It isn't an insult to be left off any list. But, it is pompous to assume that it takes a special person or rank to know good quality. In any field. It also is condescending to all those that never had the "title of Supervisor" attached to their name.

    For me though, my creed has always been, "FORGET THE TITLE....GET THE CASH."

    And, "yes Bob" I have been a titled. Did you ever make, "President" (tra..la...la) of anything??

    No, I shall not go into the TD's that have been bad for the company and the union. You already know who you are.

    So keep your letters coming all of you. Don't let a spoil-sport interfere with you chance to vent your spleen.
    
    I feel very Christian today. I love all of you, as each of you has given me a life to remember. Thank you. And... GOD BLESS
Tony C.

***From Adrian: Tony, it's not MY web page. It started out as yours, and now it belongs to all who participate. And the rule of no politics and no religion, I thought, also originated with you, although I wholehearedly endorse it. I believe I've enforced it only once, and that was on a message that Les said had accidentally slipped by him. But the issue now is not politics & religion, but what level of "Venom" is to be permitted. More below.

From Harry Peterson

Re: story about Steve Alster (sp)
Moral of story, we are all getting older and 'flakier' as we go...
How time flies etc......
harry peterson, Fort Lauderdale

From Harold Deppe

Hi Les.
The June 3 Message Bob Wilson sent in was great. need more of the same. that is what this Webb Site is all about...Lets have more of the same.
Where is ...Hy Badler....Jim Tonn.
   P.S.  This Type of Message gives this Webb Site some fresh Air.
Best Regards  Harold Deppe.

Al Consiglio re: Steve Alster

My son who per diems at CBS told me the news.
Steve was or should I say is, a complete wacko.
Les Burkhardt also sent the message. Remember, Les was the guy who got Steve for us. I would have thought Les would ignore the story as an embarressment.
Oh well, we all make mistakes.  Who hired him in the first place.
Regards,  Al C.

[Les] I have not edited any of today's messages.  What you see is what I received.  Now the question is, should I feel embarressment (see above message) or embarrassment?  I really would like to know how others feel about the feeling of embarrassment over the problems of a former CBS employee.   Lets make this a forum type of reply.  I have my own thoughts about it and will put them on the web site later.  Does the message ask who hired Steve Alster or who hired Les Burkhardt?  One other thing I feel I must comment upon.  It has been brought to my attention that one person is afraid to send in anything because "he/she doesn't spell so good"  Please send your stories to Tony or myself and we will do our best to correct what we recognize as wrong, in fact, neither of us "spell too good".  Thas wye we have spel chek and things like that.

From Adrian: What's above is not entirely what Les is referring to, because one message has been deleted by request of the writer. This was from Bob Vernum. Bob objected in very strenuous language to the posting of the Alster article, and I agree with him. I came close to holding it out, and now I wish I had. I didn't know Alster, and never even heard of him. I gather he was not very popular, and if he had been, no one would have considered submitting that article. But, hindsight being better than foresight, giving this story more circulation as we did was like kicking a man when he is down.

Received June 6, 2001:

[Les]  I must apologize for not putting the page out earlier today so that we could reflect on the meaning of what those who participated in the D Day Invasion meant to the turning point of the war in Europe.  I am sure you are aware of Murphy's Law,  it got me bigtime the past 2 days.

There has been some flak from people about my posting of the Steve Alster Story on the web page.  I had received 2 different copies of the stories from the New York Papers and it was my decision to post the story after receipt of the NY times article.  I did not post the article to: feel superior, kick a person when they were down, look at it as garbage, did not feel sick, sick, sick about it.  Nor did I feel embarrassment about the article.  I felt that other retirees who sent this news article cared enough about it to send it to me.  Just like Bob Vernum sent in the article about his daughter competing in  an Iron-Man Triathalon. To me it was just information about someone that we had worked with.  I did not make the news, I did make the decision to have it posted on the web site.       I am going to include the rest of my email  that I have at this time and go on from there

***From Adrian: Les, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I still think "we" made a mistake in posting this to the site. You might not feel any embarrassment, but Steve Alster and his family might. I don't see any comparison between this article and Bob Vernum's about his daughter. The Alster story is not what I'd call "just information". It's extremely negative information. I'm going to delete the article from the archived page.

From Bill Naeder Sr.

The Two unknowns in this picture are Mr. & Mrs. Angelo Sticker. Angelo worked for me in the construction shop for many years & was a top notch machinist.
Also did most of the engraving in the shop. Keep up the good work, you fellows do a heck of a job with this site. Regards to all....Bill Naeder Sr.

***From Adrian: Bill, I have no way of knowing what picture you're talking about. What's the number?

From Bob Wilson

Les

Unknown in photo 341 is Herbie Schwartz who was a CBS News cameraman for many years.

Regards

Bob W.

From Tony Cucurullo

          I wonder where all that wisdom is residing that is supposed to engulf all of us in our waning years.

          Solutions to problems are easier to come by because I now realize that they don't mean a-hill'a-beans, to anyone but me.

          These scattergun snippets of mundane answers seem profound in my mind, but must appear to others as yogurt on a birthday cake, (whatever that means).

          I am waiting for the wave of mental acuity to round off those sharp points of irritation and heighten the essence of my clarity.

          My minds eye has 20/20 thinking, but my writing skills cause myopic thoughts in the reader.

          The recent dialogue on the WEB page has sent shock waves of guilt amongst the standard bearers.

          This feeling leaves me thinking that I have been insulting the intelligence of my fellow CBS friends.

          The men that donate their time (and it is a valuable gift that they freely offer) are not striving for a Pulitzer Prize, or recognition from you.

          But, I do try to understand anyone's feelings about our small effort to unite us in communication.

          Everyone's thoughts are valid, even acceptable. Your right to criticize is guaranteed. But, insults are reprehensible, if they come exposed without correction.

          Let your objections resound with clarion clarity, but do not indulge us with your vitriolic verbiage based on innuendo.

          Feed us with your thoughts, let us feast on your memories, and offer a tidbit to sweeten our remaining moments before the doors of Valhalla
open to us all.

          No one-contributor to-date has influenced the WEB page as much as your next submission will be. So play the part, the scene is set. The cue is
yours.  "You are on, my friend."

TonyC.

From Tony Cucurullo

From Adrian:
"But, hindsight being better than foresight, giving this story more circulation as we did was like kicking a man when he is down"

From Tony C.:
    The Alster story made the NY and local newspapers. Enough NY area people saw the story and relayed it around the country. I received it from three people, here in Virginia..

    When a human being falls from grace he or she has enacted enough grief on themselves .

    We do not need to  bear witness to the shame of it. But, it is quite normal for those that know the individual to express  pruient comments, and thither asides.

    This man at this moment is totally alone (to my knowledge of him) in this world. He lived to support his mother who has passed on in recent years.

    His actions are, and have been aborant to many people that worked with him, and new him. He has tresspassed amongst us.

    So, "forgive him his tresspasses.." and offer a prayer that he might be saved from the demons within.   

    You might wanna, throw in your name too, into that prayer, unless of course you are without sin.

Pax Vos Biscum

Tony C.

From Tony Cucurullo

Even if you do not have little kids, pass this one on to everyone you can think of. You never know whom you might save by sending this e-mail! Please take the time and forward this to any friend who has children & grandchildren! Thanks!

Wanted to share something that happened today while shopping at Sam's Club. A mother was leaning overlooking for meat and turned around to find her 4 yr. old daughter was missing. I was standing there right beside her, and she was calling her daughter with no luck. I asked a man who worked at Sam's to announce it over the loud speaker for Katie. He did, and let me say he immediately walked right past me when I asked and went to a pole where there was a phone. He made an announcement for all the doors and gates to be locked, a code something. So they locked all the doors at once.

This took all of 3 minutes after I asked the guy to do this. They found the little girl 5 minutes later, in a bathroom stall. Her head was half shaved, and she was dressed in her underwear with a bag of clothes, a razor, and a wig sitting on the floor beside her to make her look different.

Whoever this person was, took the little girl, brought her into the bathroom, shaved half her head, and undressed her in a matter of less than10 minutes. This makes me shake to no end.

Please keep a close eye on your kids when in big places where it's easy for you to get separated. It only took a few minutes to do all of that - another 5 minutes and she would have been out the door. I am still in shock that some sick person could do this, let alone in a matter of minutes. The days are over when our little ones could run rampant all over the place and nothing worse would happen than them annoying people.

The little girl is fine. Thank God for fast workers who didn't take any chances.

BE SURE TO FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE, SO THEY KNOW JUST HOW SICK PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE!!! (This happened at the Sam's Wholesale Club in Omaha, Nebraska.)

From Tony Cucurullo

To day is D-Day.
June 6th. 1944,
Young men stormed ashore at Normandy France, and set in motion the freedoms
that we all enjoy today.
Thank you, and GOD less those brave men.
Pierce Evans                CBS
Capt. Herman Lang     CBS
Cpl. Steve Malone
Cpl. Anthony M. Spinetti
Cpl. Paul J. Prinzavalli


and on the same day in the Pacific, young men stormed ashore on the island of
Guam to start the march to avenge those that died at Pearl Harbor.
Seaman Anthony Cucurullo
and all the beachmasters, and Marines.

Patriots all!

From Pierce Evans

Hi Guys,

June 6. 1944, D-Day~~~~~~~~ so long ago but never to be forgotten.

I have updated my D-Day page:

           
http://www.pierce-evans.org/D-Day.htm/

Check it out.

Also, my entire website (address at bottom of signature block, below) has had a major overhaul and given a new look. The main page is now
mainly devoted to Military stuff.

All personal stuff like Sally's Galleries has been moved to a separate "Personal Stuff" page but there is a link to it from my main page so it
is still easy to find.

For those who have been unable to find it, THE SHROUD can now be accessed in its entirety from the Personal Stuff page.

Hope you like the new layout.


--
Pierce Evans

http://www.pierce-evans.org/index.shtml

It has been brought to my attention that some browsers do not like the "/" at the end of the D-Day URL and may not properly display the graphics.
So here it is again with the "/" deleted.

Pierce Evans wrote:

   Hi Guys,

   June 6. 1944, D-Day~~~~~~~~ so long ago but never to be forgotten.

   I have updated my D-Day page:

               http://www.pierce-evans.org/D-Day.htm

From Tony Cucurullo

http://www.wvec.com/tip_index.htm

To all my friends that have asked me where I get those tips from. The above
address is the TV station in my area. Channel 13, WVEC-TV. An ABC affiliate.
I wonder if you sign onto, www.wvec.com, and then to the 'Better Living 'page
, then you can choose any of the helpful categories you wish.
Tony C.

Received June 10, 2001: ***Note from Adrian: This starts out with four messages from Bob Vernum from starting about a week ago, previously not posted, which Les chooses to now publish to complete the record.

From Bob Vernum 6-4-01

WHAT PURPOSE DID THAT LATEST GARBAGE REPORT SERVE?? what on earth do people do to gratify themselves, sick--sick!  how about hearing about the really interesting things retirees do such as hobbies-- I would love to begin a forum complete with photos instead of the usual photos of retirees sitting around a table sipping wine at retiree luncheons.
        I am sure lots of retirees are tired of the singular dominance of the retiree page and the extravagant  verbiage --time for a change!! BOB VERNUM!---

***Bob then requested to retract the above message:

From Bob Vernum

Les, I would prefer that you do not publish my message of yesterday, the idea of submitting photos of interest/hobbies is somewhat out of reach for me right now-I do however feel that it might inspire more input from the retirees.
    I will be open for suggestions in the very near future.        thanks,   BOB V

***Les then wrote to Bob that it was too late to retract, which Les had thought because he'd already passed it along to me, but I had caught Bob's retraction request and honored it, after conferring with Les and getting his agreement.

From Bob Vernum

If its "already too late"---which I can't believe--please post my request to delete the prior message.
    rapidly waning interest in the page ,thanks for your input just can't maintain an interest in the" same old , same old"
                         BOB V

***This was from Bob in response to my opinion that we'd made a mistake in posting the NY Times article. Les and I seem to have an irreconcilable disagreement on that point. I'll add one more comment in support of Bob's and my position. Alster is obviously a sick man, and our posting that NY Times article on the site is like holding him up to ridicule. Les thinks I'm impugning his motives. Not in the least. The argument is about judgment. And maybe compassion. Tony expressed some compassion for the situation, which I respect. I'm not very good at expressing compassion, but I appreciate Tony having expressed it.

From Bob Vernum

BRAVO--nice to know that someone can see the other side of an ugly situation!               I will not respond to tonys vulgar message can't believe you published it!!!

(note:) these articles are all a result of the NY Times article which was posted on the site.

From Jeffery Pollack

To all our friends,

 I was just informed by Jim Ripple that Steve Cunningham had a heart attack  last Sunday.  Although serious at the time, after an operation to clear a major blockage, he has been released and is now at home convalescing.

 He is welcoming all correspondences from his friends on both coasts and  Jim believes it will have a lot to do with a speedy recovery for him.

 Here is the information; please pass it along to anyone that may not be on  CBS email.

 Jeff

 STEVE CUNNINGHAM
 12612 COLLINS STREET
 NORTH HOLLYWOOD, CA.  91607

 (H) 818-769-1364

From Bob Vernum

adrian--BRAVO AGAIN  regarding the New York Times, I sent in the pix of my daughter crossing the finish line at camp pendleton in the spirit of   advancing the web page beyond the usual  verbiage with a sincere hope that others would contribute what they and their families are doing in retirement!        I for one am involved in giant scale radio control model aircraft and am still a licensed pilot. I would hope others would be encouraged to   participate. fraternaly BOB VERNUM

***From Adrian: These two photos are now posted. I'd held up the first one (of his daughter) because it was a lone picture and I normally wait for a group of five before I add photos. Les asked in the text accompanying the airplane photo (I think that was an injection from Les, but he never identifies himself) whether the airplane model is a B-26? IMO, that is definitely a B-26. I'm amazed. I had no idea anyone built flying model twin-engine aircraft. Must be quite an art keeping the thrust of the two engines balanced. Bob, if one engine conks out, can you keep it in the air?

From Bill Naeder Sr.

Please apologize for me. I sent Info for two unknowns and failed to give the
picture number. The picture is # 347 and the two people are Mr. & Mrs. Angelo Sticker. Keep up the good work. Regards to all

                                                              Bill Naeder, Sr.

(Note:) [from Les] Bill did put the photo number in the Subject of his email and I was again remiss in not sending that along with his original message.  Thanks again Bill.  Does anyone who views this site have an idea of the [other] unknown persons.
***From Adrian: Thanks Bill, now identified. We should be apologizing to you. Looks like I should have had the number, but did not because of a little slipup in our procedure.
Further: Notice we've now had more than 10,000 hits on the website. And, despite Bob Vernum's waning interest, I clock the rate of hits, and we are still averaging about 30 per day. Which probably means more than 30 check in regularly, since not everyone looks in every day.

Received June 11, 2001:

From Harold Deppe

Hi Les.
I put a D.V.D. Disc on my player it brought back a memory of many years ago.  The Year 1929 I was at a Movie and the Projection room door was open back then the sound was on a 16 inch Disc on a Turntable in back of the Projector The Film was on 1000 FT. reels, eight reels of Film and eight Discs to a Movie.  To an 11 year old Boy at that time it was HI. Tech.  And now to see all of a Picture with sound and Color put on a 4 1/2 inch Disc Is a Miracle, Its like going from the Iconoscope Camera to a Mini.D.V. Camcorder Time sure goes fast .....Count the Marbles.
P.S. Where is John Koshuris ?
Best Regards  Harold Deppe.

[Les] The Name John Koshuris is somewhat familiar but I can't seem to put a face or work area with it at present.  Could you refresh our memories about him?  And, the reference to "count the marbles" is another thing that eludes me.  Is it some sort of Aesop Fable with a moral?  I know you referenced it once before.

***From Adrian: Les, Johnny Koshouris is a very well-known name to those who were around in the 50's and associated with CBS's early color operations (not the very early operations such as Bob Wilson described). Johnny was EIC of color operations during the chromacoder project, and during the first NTSC operations. He is remembered by all very fondly, as he was an affable guy, very easy to work with and for. After CBS, Johnny for many years had a regular gig as technical producer for the Miss America Pageant. I last heard of him 2-3 years ago, and Freddie told me he'd sent in his money for one luncheon, but did not attend. Maybe Freddie has some more recent news.

From Tony Cucurullo

   How sad this is for me to write. What I started to do originally was to relive the wonderful life I had in the Radio/Television field, vicariously through the sharing of stories, whether true or embellished, or even glorified.

    It took off quite well. It was not meant to substitute for our dear lady, Doris Reardon. Or to anticipate the book, or tome, that Bill Murtough is compiling at this moment. "Please Bill, complete it before we all hit the dust."

    Some of the repartee' between some of us was titillating, but never vulgar. Some information was insightful, but never condescending.  Friends poking light fun between friends. Banter.

    The more acerbic amongst us;..... put us down ever so lightly at times,..... that to me was challenging.

    On rare occasions some of the verbal abusers, (yes! There are some in our CBS family) spewed there venom and I ignored them, and didn't give them
the space they craved.

    The last three submissions of mine have been explanations of my intentions.  What a waste of time.

    What I would rather be doing is reminiscing, about the good times at CBS, and there were many of them.

    Bob Vernum did make one good comment though, perhaps you would care to write about your present-day hobbies. I told a story about Stan Mitchell who,
(before his illness) with his wife would go kayaking around the globe.
    We all know Bill Berridge and his wife Pat spent considerable time traveling. They must have great tales to tell.

    Please contribute, don't let the dissenters win.
    Bob Wilson just made a great contribution to the history of our company and union. Really a very good story, it filled in some gaps for me.  Tony C.

[Les] Thanks for the input, to both Tony and Harold

Received June 12, 2001:

From Tony Cucurullo

'50s Stars Subtly Paved Way for Change 
Imogene Coca and Arlene Francis were pioneers in their medium.

By JULIA KELLER/The Chicago Tribune

They didn't march. They didn't mobilize. They seemed too caught up in the current of their times--the 1950s, when women's roles were rigidly circumscribed and sharply limited--to rock the boat.

But in their own subtle ways, they were readjusting the craft's direction.

Imogene Coca and Arlene Francis, major figures in the early history of television who died last week, seem at first glance to have fulfilled the female stereotypes of the era. Coca, who died at 92 at her home in Westport, Conn., was best known as a loose-limbed clown on programs such as "Your Show of Shows," often playing a man-crazy wallflower or ditsy wife. Francis, who succumbed at 93 in a San Francisco hospital, was a gracious, genteel presence on talk and game shows. Viewed from another angle, however, the two were transitional figures, their work constituting important steppingstones toward a more enlightened era when women's roles in front of and behind the camera could be as varied and ambitious as men's. In other words, they did what they could when they did it.

"Both Coca and Francis are underrated and understudied," said Marsha Cassidy, an English professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago who is writing a book on daytime television from 1948 to 1960.

"There's an impression in the 21st century that way back there in the 1950s, TV put women in a certain category--the mom in heels and pearls and
shirtwaist dresses in shows like 'Leave It to Beaver.'

But the reality is that there were women working against the grain as well.  They were able to challenge the stereotypical notions of the 1950s. Coca used  her comic sensibility to challenge that role. And Francis was more clever than most women were given credit for being in that television environment."

Comedian Paula Poundstone acknowledges that Coca often was upstaged by characters played by Sid Caesar, Coca's partner in "Your Show of Shows," which aired from 1950 to 1954. "But if she was starting out now, she'd do it differently," Poundstone said.

"I give her all the credit in the world for doing stuff early on when it made a difference. She was cutting-edge. She fought some things."

Richard Heldenfels, author of "Television's Greatest Year: 1954" (1994), said of Coca's comedy and Francis' demeanor, "When you look at it in 2001, you see
some stereotypes that might have been damaging," but there were, he noted, extenuating circumstances.

Coca became famous playing broadly comic figures such as the nagging wife or the screeching, helpless female. Francis, as host of "Home," which dished out domestic tips to housewives, and later as a panelist on the game show "What's My Line?," came across as a refined highbrow in white gloves. None of those roles would gain the unqualified admiration of today's feminists.

Within the conservative context of the 1950s, however, Coca and Francis probably went about as far as they could, said Heldenfels, a television critic for the Beacon-Journal in Akron, Ohio. For one thing, he noted, "They didn't run their shows." As long as women were hired hands, they were required to do the bidding of the men in charge.

Ironically, when Coca did try to guide her own career by breaking with Caesar in 1954 and launching a solo show, she was criticized for destroying a great comedy team to pursue personal glory, Heldenfels said. The new show failed, and the resentment over her initiative seemed to linger throughout Coca's life, he added. "She takes some of the rap for the ending of 'Your Show of Shows.' There were control issues that come into play."

Such issues continue to this day, Heldenfels noted. "I always thought Roseanne got a bad rap" as the allegedly tyrannical executive producer and star of the popular ABC sitcom "Roseanne," which ran from 1988 to 1997.

"You're going to tell me that Michael Landon [producer, director and star of "Little House on the Prairie"] didn't run a tight ship? Or Bill Cosby [producer and star of "Cosby"]?"

But if a woman is in charge of a TV show or movie, she's sometimes regarded not as a driven and focused auteur but as a shrew. As difficult as it is today for women in the entertainment business, just imagine how daunting it must have been for women in the 1950s, Heldenfels said.

Still, some women attained management status in the early days of television. Lucille Ball, with whom Coca often is compared, co-owned Desilu Studios and profited from syndication and foreign sales of the show "I Love Lucy," in which she starred from 1951 to 1957. And women such as Ida Lupino, Jane Wyman, Betty White and Loretta Young not only starred in but also produced many of the TV shows in which they were involved in the 1950s.

Yet the contributions of those women, as well as those of Coca and Francis, often are overlooked, Cassidy said. "There were a number of pioneering women we've forgotten about. The history of television has been written primarily as an institutional history--what companies were running what?--and as the history of prime-time male stars."

Historical attitudes toward Coca and Francis are distorted because "we live in a patriarchal society," Cassidy added.

(c) Copyright 2001 Chicago Tribune

From Harold Deppe

Hi Les.
Count The Marbles was sent in by our good friend  Tony C. Tony...Thanks for all Your Words keep them coming.. Les ..The Date You received it was May 24, 2OO1 Best Regards....Harold Deppe.

[Les] Thanks, guess that was one that I let spell check take care of.

From Bob Vernum

This is the second giant scale twin I scratch built, it weighed 36 lbs.  The first one was a B-25 which had 150 flights before I sold it, I  am currently building a second B-25, just wish I was a good RC pilot, I fly full scale much better than RC, but I love to build.---It's a great hobby!!                    BOB V

From Harold Deppe

Hi Les
A Picture on this Webb  Page of Ernie Lowe had my memory going.  Back in the Grand Central Studio days .I and Ernie were in Maintenance with Eric Harris.
Eric Harris and Ernie Lowe were working on a project to Sync an Ampex Audio Tape recorder and a 35mm Projector together it was called Pic Sync.
I would like to know if anyone knows were Eric Harris would be?  Ernie if you read this do you remember my Dog? Best Regards.....Harold Deppe.

[Les] Harold, that in turn has triggered a memory of Ernie Lowe as related by Ernie himself.  One night very late Ernie had to take his dog out for a nature call, I think they had already retired for the night.  So Ernie slipped on one of his wife's robes to exercise the dog.  It just so happened that the local police were cruising the neighborhood while Ernie was exercising the dog.  The police, of course, queried Ernie about his attire and purpose of being out at that time. 

From Fred Schutz

Hi Fellows

Here's the latest on John Koshouris....

Last was living in Stanford, CT. running his own production company..

He was writing a book on Technical operations/Engineering  during the early days at CBS..Was trying to contact  retirees /members of the group for input...No idea as to progress.....

Recent mail has been returned ..no forwarding address        Freddie S.

From Adrian Ettlinger

Hi Freddie,

    That was about what I knew about Johnny K. also.  I'd had a phone conversation with him back 2-3 years ago, and he was very disappointed that he wasn't getting any kind of response from other old friends, like from the color crew, so I think he gave up on the idea of a book.  I offered to get together with him to see what stories would come out of our mutual reminiscing, but never heard from him after that.  Hope the returned mail is not a ominous sign.
Best regards,  --------------Adrian

Received June 14, 2001:

From Bob Wilson especially for Harold Deppe

Eric Harris left CBS in the late fifties and returned to Europe. I last saw him in West Berlin where he helped us on a news documentary with Charles Collingswood. The Berlin Wall went up during our stay.  I have not heard of Eric since.

The tape to film sync system you were referring to were the Fairchild machines which synchronized audio tape to 35mm film. They had been installed especially for "See it now" in order not to have to make up a composite film with audio, and allowed them to edit up to the time they had to deliver the show. Unfortunately they were a big source of trouble and Fred Friendly would blow his top when they failed.

Howard Chinn got involved and I recall a meeting with Sherman Fairchild to solve the problems.

***From Adrian: I remember hearing much about that project at the time, Bob, because my good friend Price Fish was the project engineer. He and I were the Engineering Dept. "Bachelors' Club" for a number of years and had dinner frequently. Price told many stories of his dealings with Fairchild and of Fred Friendly's temper tantrums. But the best tidbit was that the system had acquired the nickname "See It Now, Hear It Later".

From Bob Wilson

I think someone mentioned that the scale model plane that Bob Vernon is pictured with is a B26. This plane was known during the war as the "Flying Prostitute" (no visible means of support}.

I worked with one in England during wwII,  installing and testing radar countermeasure equipment and it brings back memories. It took very capable pilots and it's use included low level missions into Holland.

I doubt anyone will remember Larry Suhodolink (spelling?) who was part of the CBS group and after the war was in the TV Lab, but the B26 crew put Larry in the bombardiers nose and flew low level   over the countryside. Larry had an accident and never wanted to go up again.

The pilot had been a piano teacher.

From Lyn Heiges

Les,

Nice to see this website!  Royce Fish gave me the address, so I thought I would take a look!  I see Freddie Schutz as the Ham Garu and I miss ole "Sir Basil" and the group!

I moved to Florida about 3 and half years ago and Hy Badler and Muriel were down to visit last year.  

I have never attended the Luncheons, but am sorry I haven't.  We'll have to have a Florida one sometime.  I think Bob Monroe is over in Sun City Center across the Bay.  Carol (nee Pritchard who worked for Howard Porter, Mac McKelvey, Bruce Prahar and Jim French and my wife of almost 36 years now) and I moved to St. Pete Beach in 1998 after buying and revamping a house in 1997.   We live on an island, Vina Del Mar, and I am the President of the Vina Del Mar Island Association now.  We have a Cape Dory 28 sailboat and a Grady-White fishing boat and I can put the ham rig on the Cape Dory.  I am also very involved in Emergency Communications for the City of St. Pete Beach and ARES.

Don't miss the "new" CBS, but I do miss the gang from NY, DC, Philly, LA, Chicago and St. Louis.

Let me join the organization with the rest of the "Old CBS" veterans when you get a chance and I will have to get into the act with the ham nets!

Best Regards to you all!

Lyn Heiges
Ex CTN/Washington

[Les]  I seem to recall communicating with you a few times while you were in Washington and I in NY CTN.  Can't rightfully remember what it was about but glad to see you joining us.   I will be getting a new email list out soon, and will be sure to include you.  Concerning a Florida gathering of retirees, I had sent Lee Levy (Palm Beach) a list of those of us in Florida and he was going to prepare a mailing for us, but, if I remember correctly he had to go north for a family something and being we all have oldtimers disease.  It is tough to set up something here in Fla. as I can see we are strewn to the four winds across the state.  I know that on the west coast of Fla. we are situated from Naples to just above your area of St. Pete.  On the east coast the people are from the Keys to the Jacksonville area.  I am directly across the state from Palm Beach about equal distance from both you and that area.  There was a group of Radio Pioneers that did met in the Sarasota area but I don't know if that still exists. IMHO, the Orlando area is about the middle of the state but it is so vast it would be hard to set anything up and I can't recall if anyone is in that area to do the legwork.

From Tony Cucurullo

Les the story about Coco and Francis was sent in by Gayle DePoli
Tony

[Les] Gayle, sorry about missing your name...........Blame it on my being a creature of habit.  Thank you for the Article

From Tony Cucurullo

http://www.pbs.org/tradesecrets/
Read about the chemical industry and the cancer causing effects of it's products.  Scary stuff.
Thanks Marie Mahecha, email,........ nybludi
Tony C

Received June 18, 2001:

From Bob Vernum

Just an add on to Bob Wilson's comments about  the B-26, the major flight training base for the B-26 was MacDill field in Tampa, Fla.  It was a very challenging   aircraft to handle. The wing loading was very high (not enough wing area for the weight of the aircraft), it was later modified with a longer wing!  This problem resulted in the  quote--"A PLANE A DAY IN TAMPA BAY"    BOB V

Received June 19, 2001:

From Joe Strano

Hi Tony,
    I don't know if you have received this info already, but  just in case you haven't,  at the end of this month Irwin Solow  will be retiring from CBS after more than 37 years of loyal service  to the company and his Union brothers.  As you know, he took  over the job of Control Maintenance Supervisor after Les  Burkhardt was promoted into Management.  I'm sure he will  welcome the opportunity to enjoy his family and relaxation time.  I know that many of his friends will join us in wishing him well.               Joe

[Les] I'm proud to say that I had worked WITH Irwin in the capacities of  co-worker, supervisor and manager.  Irwin is a very knowledgeable and a great credit to the CBS family, surely he will be missed by all who are fortunate enough to say that they too had worked with Irwin.  Congratulations, sorry that I will be unable to attend your retirement celebration.

From Tony Cucurullo

To All,
I got this list from Dell support I had a slow starting computer, and I ran out of memory. It locked up the computer. Support, had me:
    (1) Restart, and hit the F8 key.That put it in 'safe mode'.
    (2) Go to 'Run' and type , 'msconfig'
    (3) Click on the 'Startup'
    (4) Then take out all the check marks except the following:
        Scan Registry
        Task Monitor
        PC Health
        System Tray
        Load Power profile
        Norton Auto-Protect
        *State Mgr
This worked, after I restarted. You might want to save this.

Tony C.

[Les] To add to this, another cause of slow starting your system on boot is, in many cases, a large number of fonts loading at startup.  This can be corrected by getting rid of the unneeded fonts.  The site www.pcmag.com/utilities has a freeware program 'Font Viewer'.  Download and install this program, it will allow it to scan all of the files in your computer and see what fonts are used and gives a report back.  The program further allows you to uninstall the fonts that you do not use but, it allows the ability to reinstall any of these fonts.

From Bill Murtough  on the "Passing on" of Norm Dewes

I noticed that Norm's passing which I was posting never made it to the net. It made me realize that it was probably because he was a KNX engineer and in TV the guys only knew their own local people. I was fortunate enough to have had a nationwide friendship, which I always valued. In radio we were a big family. In fact I have just returned from a weekly local ham radio group breakfast, which includes several old time broadcast engineers. Denny Denowitz and Bill Klink from WBBM. They were in attendance this morning. We always have a lot to talk and laugh about.  (The company at one point wanted me to go to Chicago to talk to the VP about becoming the chief engineer of WBBM-Radio. I turned it down. I was making more money as a technician!).

At one point I was sent to Chicago to originate the "Edgar Bergen Show" (radio). The WBBM crew treated me royally. I was housed in an expensive suite in a posh hotel. The following week I was to do the show from New York  using the TV theater studio at Lincoln Square. The TV maintenance guys gave me a hard time. Then one of them asked if I was the Hollywood engineer. When I explained that I was from 485, the guy apologized, explaining that they were giving me hard time because they thought that I was the Hollywood engineer, who was my long time friend, Pat Walsh. I was annoyed as I realized had it been Pat, what would have happened.  This would not have happened in radio.

The final blow came when department head Danny Wells claimed that I had told a producer that I didn't want to work on his show (actually someone else wanted the assignment and told the producer that I didn't want to work with him). Danny had me transferred back to radio. When I tried to tell him that I hadn't. he called me a liar. (That hurt!) I was going to file a grievance with the union but found that I was back where I was treated with respect, so took no action> (Possibly Danny would have been fired if I had taken action).

"Amateur night in Dixie" to quote an old show biz saying.

Bill Murtough

[Les] Bill did send articles to my old JUNO address in the past, but, alas, that is in my old computer and I do not use it anymore, the same can be said for the old AOL address that I had.......If you send anything to either of those two addresses, I just won't see it.  I would bet a dollar to a donut that is what happened.

I found that I had an error on my last posting of the email addresses, I had updated them and for some reason failed to save the new information.  When I attached the files to the email I sent a version dated sometime in April.   I will be sending out a corrected version again.  Thus far only one person has commented on the sending of the 2 versions of the list.  He called the larger .doc version bloatware.  Any other comments??

Received June 24, 2001:

From Bob Wilson

CBS Florida Community 

Reading the mail on the website about the interest in having a Florida CBS retiree group has reminded me of more CBS history, which had it been successful, there would be a CBS retirement community on the Intracoastal waterway on the East Coast of Florida. I’ve forgotten the exact location.

 As I recall, there were two Busch brothers in CBS Radio. One, Hugo, went on to work in the Construction and Building operations in CBS. I think there was a cutback and he transferred to the technical operations construction shop on West 57th street then run by Frank Broich. This was some time in the mid 50’s. The Field shop was adjacent to the construction shop and I occasionally chatted with Hugo.

 Hugo had an option on a big tract of real estate on the East Coast of Florida and had the idea of developing it as a CBS retirement community. As I recall he was going to sell shares in the project. He had promotion literature printed and there was limited distributed. 

 Anyway the idea never took off and Hugo left CBS without fanfare and we never did learn whether he went though with the realty deal on some other basis. It was, as I recall, what would be a prime piece of real estate by today’s standards and probably now well developed.

 I wonder how many remember this?

 Tony Landry?

From Harold Schutzman

Hi tony

Good to hear from you. I don't have internet.  Just e-mail so I can't see your writings.

best regards   Harold Schutzman

From Tony Cucurullo

To All:
  We want to thank all of you that prayed for my daughter during her medical tribulations.

  We feel that without the help from pray, she would be in more serious situation than is now the case.

  Let us therefore pray for all those that need it at this time. For we are all children in his need.

  Medicine is art applied scientifically, PRAY IS DIVINE.

Thank you.       Paula and Tony

From Tony Cucurullo

Here are some thoughts about putting life into perspective.   Clearly not all ideas apply to all people.   Take what is useful for you.

I am thankful ... for the husband who complains when his dinner is not on time because he is home with me, not with someone else.

For the teenager who is complaining about doing dishes because that means she is at home and not on the streets.

For the taxes that I pay, because it means that I am employed.

For the mess to clean after a party, because it means that I have been surrounded by friends.

For the clothes that fit a little too snug, because it means I have enough to eat.

For my shadow that watches my work, because it means I am out in the sunshine.

For a lawn that needs mowing, windows that need cleaning, and gutters that need fixing, because it means I have a home.

For all the complaining I hear about the government, because it means that we have freedom of speech.

For the parking spot I find at the far end of the parking lot, because it means I am capable of walking and that I have been blessed with transportation.

For my huge heating bill, because it means I am warm.

For the lady behind me in church that sings off key, because it means that I can  hear.

For the pile of laundry and ironing, because it means I have clothes to wear.

For weariness and aching muscles at the end of the day, because it means I have been capable of working hard.

For the alarm that goes off in the early morning hours, because it means that I am alive.

And finally ... for too much e-mail, because it means I have friends who are thinking of me.

Send this to someone you care about and brighten their day!

[Les] the following are two emails from Cal Marotta that I received in his response to my comment on the Tony Cucurullo posting about speeding up computer startup.  My reply to Cal involved using windows explorer to find the program that he had downloaded and a couple of steps to install the same. Also what to click when downloading from a site.

From Cal Marotta

Hi Les,
I downloaded the Font data and I got a window that says Norton Unzip and asking what file I want.  When I downloaded there was a choice on how to open.  Did I pick the wrong one? I`m not too computer savvy and some of the directions confuse me.       .....cal

From Cal again

I followed your instructions to the letter and everything worked. But guess what!
I have a HP computer and while looking for a file I went into Windows and lo and behold there was a file that said Fonts.I opened it and all the fonts that I left were there. I had an easy way of doing it ,but I did`nt know it. I want to thank you for showing me how to look for stuff. It was a good lesson and I`m not afraid to go probing into my hard drive anymore. THANKS...

[Les] This has caused me to think a little more about how many of you use the system tools provided. Tools such as disk cleanup, getting rid of cookies, disk defrag.  clearing temporary files.  Have a great day.

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